{"id":2423,"date":"2013-11-05T17:01:55","date_gmt":"2013-11-06T01:01:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/?p=2423"},"modified":"2021-02-06T08:35:44","modified_gmt":"2021-02-06T16:35:44","slug":"hard-times-for-hand-laying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/index.php\/2013\/11\/05\/hard-times-for-hand-laying\/","title":{"rendered":"Hard Times for Hand Laying"},"content":{"rendered":"<div\n    class=\"pld-like-dislike-wrap pld-template-2\">\n    <div class=\"pld-like-wrap  pld-common-wrap\">\n    <a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"\n       class=\"pld-like-trigger pld-like-dislike-trigger \"\n       title=\"\"\n       data-post-id=\"2423\"\n       data-trigger-type=\"like\"\n       data-restriction=\"ip\"\n       data-already-liked=\"0\">\n                           <i class=\"fas fa-heart\"><\/i>\n                    <\/a>\n    <span class=\"pld-like-count-wrap pld-count-wrap\">    <\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><h3><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Hard Times for Hand Laying<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>I&#8217;ve hand laid a 3&#8242; section around a 24&#8243; radius corner. There are some minor dips in the track. Proto:87 cars run fine. A 6 axle loco with P:87 wheels&nbsp;won&#8217;t make the curve. It&#8217;s obvious now why you need&nbsp;smooth flat track or some sort of working suspension. The 6 axle loco really suffers here, because a minor dip on one axle will cause the other two axles to raise. Generally what is happening is that the center axle raises and the rear axle kicks out (no significant flange to keep it on the track). Possible&nbsp;factors for the problems:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Tight Radius.<\/li>\n<li>Not flat track<\/li>\n<li>Incorrectly gauged wheels or track (I think I&#8217;ve got the gauges&nbsp;right though)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h3><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">How do I Proceed?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Now I&#8217;m faced with a decision on how to proceed. I think I need to give something up to get something working. My options as I see them:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Test again with 4 axle locomotive.&nbsp;I&#8217;m thinking the 4 axle loco will&nbsp;be more forgiving. I need to order some wheels to do this.<\/li>\n<li>Switch to flex track. It is easier to lay smooth track with and I&#8217;ve successfully tested 24&#8243; radius curves with flex track and 6 axle P:87 locos.<\/li>\n<li>RP-25. My 6 axle loco with RP25 wheels works just fine.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-2423 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090719.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090719-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"This wheel isn&#039;t touching the track.\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2424\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090719-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090719-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090719-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2424'>\n\t\t\t\tThis wheel isn&#8217;t touching the track.\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090722.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090722-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"More obvious: This wheel isn&#039;t touching the track.\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2425\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090722-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090722-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090722-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2425'>\n\t\t\t\tMore obvious: This wheel isn&#8217;t touching the track.\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090724.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090724-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"New handlaid section of 24&quot; radius track.\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2426\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090724-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090724-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/P1090724-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2426'>\n\t\t\t\tNew handlaid section of 24&#8243; radius track.\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p class=\"pvc_stats total_only \" data-element-id=\"2423\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" version=\"1.0\" viewBox=\"0 0 502 315\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid meet\"><g transform=\"translate(0,332) scale(0.1,-0.1)\" fill=\"\" stroke=\"none\"><path d=\"M2394 3279 l-29 -30 -3 -207 c-2 -182 0 -211 15 -242 39 -76 157 -76 196 0 15 31 17 60 15 243 l-3 209 -33 29 c-26 23 -41 29 -80 29 -41 0 -53 -5 -78 -31z\"\/><path d=\"M3085 3251 c-45 -19 -58 -50 -96 -229 -47 -217 -49 -260 -13 -295 52 -53 146 -42 177 20 16 31 87 366 87 410 0 70 -86 122 -155 94z\"\/><path d=\"M1751 3234 c-13 -9 -29 -31 -37 -50 -12 -29 -10 -49 21 -204 19 -94 39 -189 45 -210 14 -50 54 -80 110 -80 34 0 48 6 76 34 21 21 34 44 34 59 0 14 -18 113 -40 219 -37 178 -43 195 -70 221 -36 32 -101 37 -139 11z\"\/><path d=\"M1163 3073 c-36 -7 -73 -59 -73 -102 0 -56 133 -378 171 -413 34 -32 83 -37 129 -13 70 36 67 87 -16 290 -86 209 -89 214 -129 231 -35 14 -42 15 -82 7z\"\/><path d=\"M3689 3066 c-15 -9 -33 -30 -42 -48 -48 -103 -147 -355 -147 -375 0 -98 131 -148 192 -74 13 15 57 108 97 206 80 196 84 226 37 273 -30 30 -99 39 -137 18z\"\/><path d=\"M583 2784 c-38 -19 -67 -74 -58 -113 9 -42 211 -354 242 -373 16 -10 45 -18 66 -18 51 0 107 52 107 100 0 39 -1 41 -124 234 -80 126 -108 162 -133 173 -41 17 -61 16 -100 -3z\"\/><path d=\"M4250 2784 c-14 -9 -74 -91 -133 -183 -95 -150 -107 -173 -107 -213 0 -55 33 -94 87 -104 67 -13 90 8 211 198 130 202 137 225 78 284 -27 27 -42 34 -72 34 -22 0 -50 -8 -64 -16z\"\/><path d=\"M2275 2693 c-553 -48 -1095 -270 -1585 -649 -135 -104 -459 -423 -483 -476 -23 -49 -22 -139 2 -186 73 -142 361 -457 571 -626 285 -228 642 -407 990 -497 242 -63 336 -73 660 -74 310 0 370 5 595 52 535 111 1045 392 1455 803 122 121 250 273 275 326 19 41 19 137 0 174 -41 79 -309 363 -465 492 -447 370 -946 591 -1479 653 -113 14 -422 18 -536 8z m395 -428 c171 -34 330 -124 456 -258 112 -119 167 -219 211 -378 27 -96 24 -300 -5 -401 -72 -255 -236 -447 -474 -557 -132 -62 -201 -76 -368 -76 -167 0 -236 14 -368 76 -213 98 -373 271 -451 485 -162 444 86 934 547 1084 153 49 292 57 452 25z m909 -232 c222 -123 408 -262 593 -441 76 -74 138 -139 138 -144 0 -16 -233 -242 -330 -319 -155 -123 -309 -223 -461 -299 l-81 -41 32 46 c18 26 49 83 70 128 143 306 141 649 -6 957 -25 52 -61 116 -79 142 l-34 47 45 -20 c26 -10 76 -36 113 -56z m-2057 25 c-40 -58 -105 -190 -130 -263 -110 -324 -59 -707 132 -981 25 -35 42 -64 37 -64 -19 0 -241 119 -326 174 -188 122 -406 314 -532 468 l-58 71 108 103 c185 178 428 349 672 473 66 33 121 60 123 61 2 0 -10 -19 -26 -42z\"\/><path d=\"M2375 1950 c-198 -44 -350 -190 -395 -379 -18 -76 -8 -221 19 -290 114 -284 457 -406 731 -260 98 52 188 154 231 260 27 69 37 214 19 290 -38 163 -166 304 -326 360 -67 23 -215 33 -279 19z\"\/><\/g><\/svg><\/i> &nbsp;8,980&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hard Times for Hand Laying I&#8217;ve hand laid a 3&#8242; 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