{"id":2286,"date":"2013-09-01T01:09:46","date_gmt":"2013-09-01T08:09:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/?p=2286"},"modified":"2021-02-06T08:53:46","modified_gmt":"2021-02-06T16:53:46","slug":"another-turnout-and-im-still-learning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/index.php\/2013\/09\/01\/another-turnout-and-im-still-learning\/","title":{"rendered":"Another Turnout And I&#8217;m Still Learning"},"content":{"rendered":"<div\n    class=\"pld-like-dislike-wrap pld-template-2\">\n    <div class=\"pld-like-wrap  pld-common-wrap\">\n    <a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"\n       class=\"pld-like-trigger pld-like-dislike-trigger \"\n       title=\"\"\n       data-post-id=\"2286\"\n       data-trigger-type=\"like\"\n       data-restriction=\"ip\"\n       data-already-liked=\"0\">\n                           <i class=\"fas fa-heart\"><\/i>\n                    <\/a>\n    <span class=\"pld-like-count-wrap pld-count-wrap\">    <\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-2286 gallery-columns-2 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-261.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-261-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"Proto:87 #10 &quot;Ultimate Turnout&quot;\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2292\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-261-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-261-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-261.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2292'>\n\t\t\t\tProto:87 #10 &#8220;Ultimate Turnout&#8221;\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-262.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-262-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"Proto:87 #10 &quot;Ultimate Turnout&quot;\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2287\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-262-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-262-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-262.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2287'>\n\t\t\t\tProto:87 #10 &#8220;Ultimate Turnout&#8221;\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-263.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-263-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"Proto:87 #10 &quot;Ultimate Turnout&quot;\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2288\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-263-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-263-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-263.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2288'>\n\t\t\t\tProto:87 #10 &#8220;Ultimate Turnout&#8221;\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-264.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-264-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"Proto:87 #10 &quot;Ultimate Turnout&quot;\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2289\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-264-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-264-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-264.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2289'>\n\t\t\t\tProto:87 #10 &#8220;Ultimate Turnout&#8221;\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-265.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-265-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"Proto:87 #10 &quot;Ultimate Turnout&quot;\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2290\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-265-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-265-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-265.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2290'>\n\t\t\t\tProto:87 #10 &#8220;Ultimate Turnout&#8221;\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-266.jpg'><img width=\"200\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-266-200x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"Proto:87 #10 &quot;Ultimate Turnout&quot;\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-2291\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-266-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-266-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.gregamer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Switch-Works-266.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-2291'>\n\t\t\t\tProto:87 #10 &#8220;Ultimate Turnout&#8221;\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p>What little time I had this summer for model railroading was pretty much devoted to making another Proto:87 Stores #10 &#8220;Ultimate&#8221; Turnout. This time I decided to heavily modify it from the original. These are some of the modifications and the&nbsp;lessons I learned along the way.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">I substituted Heavy Duty tie plates for the standard Medium Duty Tie plates.<\/span><\/strong>The heavy duty tie plates don&#8217;t fit the Proto:87 Stores Switch-Works tie-plate jig I&#8217;ve been using. So in order to lay the Heavy duty tie plates,&nbsp;I used&nbsp;tie plate jig to lay a few reference tie plates and then used a piece of rail to site the rest of the tie plates. I glued them in place using Barge\/MEK. Somehow, I misplaced about every tie plate, causing me to have to lift them up and reapply them several times to get the correct position. In the future, I will use several more reference tie plates.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">I substituted tie plates around the points, guard rails and frog.<\/span><\/strong>Some of this had to be done somewhat freehand, so I didn&#8217;t get a perfect job, but the tie plates around the guard rails turned out pretty good. In the future I&#8217;ll be much more careful with these and I will need to develop a better way to site the frog first, then slip tie plates beneath.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">I added Details West Adjustable Rail Braces.<\/span><\/strong>These look OK, they all needed some degree of filing to make them fit. I don&#8217;t think they turned out that great, they don&#8217;t all look to be the same size and they don&#8217;t all seat the same. I was&nbsp;tempted to use the Central Valley rail braces, but I think I had a hard time cutting them off the sprue and threw them out.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">I tried Humbrol Enamels for Painting the Track<\/span><\/strong>Matt 113 and Matt 98 looked good going on, but turned out to be more like a gloss than a matte. I had to strip the paint off and go back to my old friend Vallejo Cam Medium Brown. The Vallejo paint looks great.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">I Abandoned the Proto:87 Stores Point Hinges for Micro Engineering Rail Joiners<\/span><\/strong>I didn&#8217;t like the Proto:87 Stores&nbsp;point hinges,&nbsp;it leaves&nbsp;too much vertical slop in the points. I&#8217;m much happier with the rail joiners.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">I&#8217;m not Satisfied with the Turnout Throw<\/span><\/strong>I&#8217;ve built six turnouts and probably experimented with&nbsp;15 different points. I don&#8217;t like how the Proto:87 Stores throw bars work. The best interim solution I&#8217;ve found is to shim them, but this leaves them extremely stiff and hard to throw.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Glue (Ewwww!)<\/span><\/strong>As you can see in the photos, I really ended up with some glue globs. Not what I want at all!<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I started another turnout last week. This time using CA to glue the ties to the plastic base, and inadvertently to the Switch-Works fixture. I destroyed the tie base and thought I had destroyed the fixture also, but was able to reshape it and clean it up. 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